tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8392804955786463612.post4081478930007922726..comments2024-01-03T15:34:49.620+00:00Comments on Ian Wardell: Philosophical Thoughts: Education and ScientismIan Wardellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999029760897196102noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8392804955786463612.post-13416546131360863512020-11-25T16:18:07.291+00:002020-11-25T16:18:07.291+00:00It's news to me that I want to blame the scien...It's news to me that I want to blame the science teacher. If anyone is to be blamed it's the professional scientists and philosophers. Although, of course, they might not be keen to rock the boat as it may have a negative impact on their reputations and careers. Ian Wardellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999029760897196102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8392804955786463612.post-31558959295160326252020-11-25T04:20:27.956+00:002020-11-25T04:20:27.956+00:00Well, sure, they get many ideas from the culture. ...Well, sure, they get many ideas from the culture. I'm just puzzled that you want to blame the science teacher.<br /><br />Back when I was in elementary school, I learned that Santa Claus did not exist. That didn't come from a teacher. It came from other children at the same school. These days, the ideas that concern you are as likely to come from the Internet or from television or movies.nwrickerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13245981500899410679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8392804955786463612.post-46224104038429358442020-11-24T18:11:22.197+00:002020-11-24T18:11:22.197+00:00Where do you imagine that these ideas come from th...Where do you imagine that these ideas come from then? You imagine that people would have thought exactly the same if they had been brought up in another time and place? That can't be so because people in medieval times would have thought you were insane to deny a God or an afterlife. No, it's our culture and the educational process that fosters this belief in materialism and all it entails. This is why the educated are much more likely to subscribe to materialism.<br /><br />Of course, teachers don't have to *explicitly* state that we are mere sophisticated biological robots etc. Undesirable consequences will be ignored! The point being that it directly follows from some materialistic metaphysic being true.<br /><br />Re colours and the like. Your experience at school differs from mine. I was taught that there are only wavelengths of light etc. Looks like you had the benefit of being taught philosophy! Ian Wardellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999029760897196102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8392804955786463612.post-87913548100701180102020-11-24T16:56:13.097+00:002020-11-24T16:56:13.097+00:00"For example, that we are sophisticated biolo..."For example, that we are sophisticated biological robots with no free will."<br /><br />I have never had a science teacher suggest that.<br /><br />Yes, some scientists say similar things in online blogs or other online discussions. But do they actually say that in class?<br /><br />"That colours, sounds and smells don't literally exist out there."<br /><br />I have had teachers raise that question. But it was always as a question for thought and discussion. It was never presented as a statement of fact. And I don't think it came from a science teacher.nwrickerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13245981500899410679noreply@blogger.com